Killing Floor Wiki talk:Manual of Style

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Singular/plural in page-names?[edit]

I took a look at the redirect-pages and noticed some differences. All the specimen-pages are named as singular (as in clot instead of clots) where the plural-version redirects to the singular-version. Perks on the other hand is the other way around, where Perk redirects to Perks. Also there's a page both for Specimen and Specimens (with the same info I think). Is there some kind of 'rule' as to how to name a page? I don't want to start changing too many links (looking at the Wanted Pages) if it turns out I did it wrong :-P --Random Guy 14:48, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

To me, it doesn't matter if the headline is singular or plural, as long as they redirect to one another. --Takua 11:22, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

I think there should be some kind of standard, so we don't end up with lots of pages with the same info. Like the specimen's pages where they're all singular. Different people could for example have made the pages like Clot, Bloats, Crawler, Sirens and so on, but now they're singular and the plural-versions redirect. I changed the Specimen-page so that the plural redirects to the singular. It's easier to make links then (I think) as if the text wants plural you just add the 's' afterwards (as in [[Specimen]]s). Maybe I'm the only one who cares about such things... Ah well :-) --Random Guy 12:27, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Glad you'd like our wiki to be more organised but, putting a "s" after the [[Specimen]] doesn't help as the wiki will automatically put the "s" inside the brackets when viewed. So putting [{Specimen]]s will result in [[Specimens]] when viewed outside the edit-page. --Takua 18:10, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Aah, but the trick is that the link comes up for the page Specimen if it's written like this [{Specimen]]s but the text will show Specimens (so the whole text is a link "Specimens" but goes to the page "Specimen"). You can try it by writing both versions and then use Show preview. Try both links and you'll see that they link to different pages. That's why I think it's better with singular-pages :-) I see that you've been organizing the pages too, I'll have a look at the Format --Random Guy 22:13, 5 June 2009 (UTC)


Capitalisation[edit]

I know that there's a section about capitalisation on the User talk:Takua-page (and other pages?), but the format-discussion is where it should be. Feel free to move that part here if you want.

My question is if the information here on the format-page is the current and right one? Also, should we follow the in-game text or is the format here more important? I guess the format takes precedence in most cases. I noticed for example that in the game they write both "combat armor" and "combat armour" in different cases, and the format tells us to go with British English (not specifically capitalisation, but it's an example).

I was going to start changing capitalisation all over the place (for example move the "Fire Axe" page to "Fire axe" and redirect the former to the latter, and search for words on all the pages), but it's kind of a lot to do so I want to make sure the information is right first. --Random Guy 13:25, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

I'm aware of that, its part of the To-Do list, I first chose to capitalise both words (Fire Axe) but then decided to change, sooooo now it's (Fire axe). Meaning we only capitalise the first letter. If you see any grammatical errors, spelling errors and/or unnecessary capitalisation, feel free to change it. Specimen and Squad has also been decided as "common words", so we don't capitalise those either.

Conclusion: First game-term capitalised and must correct everything before the wiki grows bigger. --Takua 15:36, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for correcting everything randomguy! I didn't expect you to finish it all in 1 day, but great job! --Takua 06:17, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, better to do it all at once I thought... Although I didn't check through the templates or categories, will try that today. Had a look at the recent changes now, and ow, it took some more then five hours to go through it all. My longest KF wiki sitting so far :-D Ooh, and I hope I wrote correctly and didn't miss anything. Kind of tired at the end. As always, we should correct if we notice anything wrong --Random Guy 10:46, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Writing style[edit]

How important is the format when compared to the game? I changed two places with text from in-game so it was written just as in-game, in this case it was the Scrake- and the Police Sergeant Davin-page. In the game the words "is" and "definitely" are written in capital letters, but here on the wiki those parts were changed to bold and italics (which also is wrong according to the format as it is today). Therefore I'm asking (before eventually changing either the format or those pages so at least one of them is right), if the game or the format is most important? There're also other cases for example Lever-action rifle is written in-game as "Lever Action Rifle" (as you can see on the picture on that page). The capitalisation is for another section but the "lever-action" versus "lever action" I'm wondering about. --Random Guy 13:43, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Well, I changed it to prevent confusion of new wiki-writters who have read the format and then saw the gametext template with all caps. All text written in-game doesn't always have to be the same as we write here in this wiki. Therefore, the format should and must be followed be everyone cept' in discussions and "my talks".

Now, about that Lever-action rifle now. Wikipedia has written "lever-action" and as we are writing a wiki as well, I guess it should be written the same way. <.< About the picture too, I guess we could edit a simple hyphen to it (-). --Takua 15:36, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Weapon Information Updates[edit]

I was looking through and it's not standard for weapon clips and ammo capacity to be listed, wouldn't this be something to include in the weapon box table?